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ディト 〈dito〉 ([personal profile] necrophily) wrote in [community profile] yogen2021-10-11 11:41 pm

network, 10/07 | un: s.dito

who the fuck is lucifer
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-12 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
[Lucifer blows air out of his nose at that comment.]

Human compassion? Is that what you'd call it?

[Humans as a species are... mostly uninteresting, Lucifer has to say. Interesting but uninteresting, if that makes any sense — they draw his eye in the choices they make, but at the end of the day, there are billions of them, always making more faster than the Celestial Realm's angels could ever hope to account for. When sitting idle, a human will always claim that murder is wrong, that death should be honoured, and that to do anything against the status quo is asking for trouble. Yet, when confronted, when passionate, when scared or furious or seeking out retribution, a human will kill or claim that they're morally correct in hurting another. To Lucifer, one of the world's so-called greatest evils, humans posturing to him and treating him like he's lesser pisses him off. Man's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Then, there are humans like Komaeda, who break the status quo completely, uncaring. Humans who think differently, whether because they're downright psychotic or because of something else. Those humans, those are the interesting ones. The murderers and the murdered will always rewrite history; the rest of humanity falls into place alongside them.]


I have no say in human compassion, so I'll take you at your word, and we can leave it at that. To answer your question, no, I am not ambidextrous. That should have little to do with the blood that was left behind, however.
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-12 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Did it get to you? I said it because of the stereotype.

( you can learn a lot about a person thanks to what you say, and what you do. the response is more than enough for komaeda to gauge how this works with him on a compassionate level, of course beings higher, and or lower (hell is beneath the plane that humans exist in) wouldn't believe in something so simple, and besides it's not like compassion is why elizabeth and minato were set with poise, none of that is needed to act the way lucifer did, but the concept is wholly different demons and humans. humans believe in one way, and otherworldly creatures can look at it and name it another. )

Human compassion... The only thing I care for from a human is hope.

( because komaeda lacks that human compassion, and that's what lead to most of his actions. if only things were that easy. he pauses, lifting both his hands like he's been caught. ) ...what has been the issue with your arm, it's not like you've had the need to hide it, more like... is it unusable... ( given if it was, he could use his left arm to drink his coffee and ride the cart, but if he can't even do that... ) ...and I doubt you'd hurt yourself on your own terms... Anyone facing against you would have to match you in power...

( he turns around to stare at the chair, looking back to where he recalls the blood was meant to be, but he was told neither of them bled — the blood that doesn't add up, and if it's not lucifer's blood, and if it didn't come from them... or perhaps it did, it's not like a person need to be cut to bleed... oh, what a delimma they have here.

he turns back around. )
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-12 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
[Lucifer takes another sip of his coffee, then simply shakes his head. His smile looks amused, if anything, this whole thing has been nothing but humourous to him. Everyone is so quick to point fingers and get angry before they turn around and do something shameful themselves. Holding the can in his hand, Lucifer incants, and then — sitting atop a small, gleaming magic circle — his drink hovers in the air. A stasis hex to keep it from spilling, while he shrugs off his blazer and unbuttons the top few buttons of his shirt, just enough to pull his shoulder free.

He's injured, severely, uncommon for a man of Lucifer's strength and expertise; the cut travels from the top of his shoulder and disappears beneath his clothes, stopping halfway down his chest. There are multiple small pinprick wounds next to the stitches put in place, because Lucifer originally stitched his wound himself with string from the sewing room before going to get it taken care of by the nurse in the morning. A sheen of some sort of topical ointment, something like Neosporin, gleams in the dim elevator light.

Who could possibly injure the devil himself...? An interesting question that Lucifer is sure Komaeda knows the answer to, or will know soon enough.]


It isn't unusable, but I'm trying to minimize potential damage as much as possible. If you're curious about where this wound was inflicted upon me, it was in the first floor hallway, where the bulk of my retribution took place.
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-13 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
( god don't be gay in an elevator komaeda, don't look at another man and have thoughts komaeda, all that skin is not meant for you komaeda, be calm komaeda and look to the ceiling — no, that's bad, don't do that, just not look at him komaeda, but he shakes a bit, he has to look at what the other is showing him to understand this case, so he's going to look at his thick arm, and if his heart skips a beat then strike him down g—

he observes the wound, taking a step closer as his eyes widen a moment — lucifer is iconic just like every other devil or angel, and so to see these wounds. isn't this place amazing, and here he is, still standing with what was given to him! komaeda chuckles a bit, lifting his hand so that his fingers brush against the wound less than gently, but to feel the thread underneath his fingers. )


Those other fools were no match, the simple students that you crushed one by one...

( he hums, removing his hand quickly, and with the same, cool, metallic one he'll reach out towards the buttons, clicking the one for the first floor. the cart rocks, from the quick change in selection, and its tarts to descend. )

Ah... so it happened there, if it took place in the void... it wouldn't look like that at all. It's almost like the first floor was your domain...

( he leans back, staring at the wound again as he thinks about both elizabeth and minato, and he recalls that the latter has killed someone for a group's happiness, and elizabeth wasn't just anyone. a cryptid to most, but also someone formidable he believes, and then lucifer is his own concept to humans and his kind as well, so perhaps this is almost like how komaeda believed rika's opponent had to be someone worth their strength to be able to kill or harm them. )

Were you cut... with a sword?
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-13 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
[Failed step one: Komaeda was gay in an elevator. To Komaeda's credit, it's extremely difficult to have heterosexual thoughts around Lucifer.

Lucifer doesn't recoil away from the less-than-delicate touch, but he does let out a hiss of pain through his teeth — why ever Komaeda feels the need to touch a still-healing wound is beyond him, but whatever he supposes. At least it hurts less than it did originally.]


Correct, to both of those statements. [When Komaeda draws away, Lucifer starts to redress himself, injured arm moving somewhat stiffly.] Physical wounds like this are quite annoying for me. They transfer over between form shifts — this was inflicted on me in my true form.

[He's not saying everything, obviously — nor is he hiding the truth. Komaeda seems well and capable of putting two and two together himself; to both of them, this is a game of some sort. Still, despite that, Lucifer bothers to add with an irritated huff,]

I was so very careful about not going to the void, you know. This injury made quite a mess of that.

[Punctuating that statement, Lucifer releases the hex on his coffee and returns it to his hand to take a drink.]
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-13 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
( he's about to fail step two: keep this less than gay, which komaeda, much to the lack of hetero thoughts in his mind listens to lucifer speak about his true form, and his eyes blink. it reminds him of tanaka who is nothing but an eccentric talk about the bowels of hell, demons with different forms that can seduce simple humans who know no better — komaeda, a simple human scum would probably fall in line with that. )

Show yourself to me...

( his voice has always been soft, sickly, but calming to those if they really listen to him — luckily it's not a command, so he's not truly hurt if he can't see him in his full glory as they saw, but it does help with giving komaeda an idea of what sort of form he's working with. the abilities, the design, what would happen if he was in that form, and how much damage to his true body would it take unlike doing it to this appearance he has now?

though as he waits, he'll try to think about how he skipped a step — whether he found elizabeth first, or she found him? if it's the element of surprise, it has to be that they found him first, and managed to strike lucifer down — he glances at the ground, his foot tapping — )


Going to the void with her... would have been horrible, so I can understand why you tried your best to avoid it.

( though komaeda doesn't know what full power would mean, but he remembers elizabeth in their classroom lamenting over thanatos — that he wasn't at his proper strength, or that's what it sounded like to him. )

...Thanatos isn't at full power here, but you learned that, I'm sure. ( as the cart descends, komaeda wonders where he should take lucifer first? to the lockers where there was blood, and maybe down the hall with the faculty office — minato could have been at the nurse's office at the time, but there's so much to understand. ) So you two went to the void, and I'm sure you're well-versed in many abilities there, too. I'd suggest your outcome was better than theirs, considering they slept peacefully, had no areas of being treated like the others you killed, I could suspect they died in the void... though where did Elizabeth falter, was it because she attacked you... and you decided her fate then and there?
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-13 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
[Step two super failed. Komaeda gets an F in heterosexuality, which is incredibly relatable and he's valid for that.

And, well, uh. Komaeda's request comes across as perhaps a bit uncomfortably thirsty, but this also isn't the first time Lucifer's heard uncomfortably thirsty requests from people. Humans tended to be that way with demons in general, so

sure, he'll bite, he supposes, letting a purple light glimmer around him before it flashes and he's standing there with his wings flexing and wearing a different outfit entirely. If Komaeda pays attention to the fabric over Lucifer's left shoulder, he'll see careful, neat stitchwork from where Lucifer had to sew his overcoat up after the incident. It's difficult to see — Lucifer had been meticulous about the repairs — but to someone observant, it's noticeable.]


You're quite close, but slightly incorrect. Elizabeth attacked me outside of the void, after the first four had already died, and that is how we wound up there. Of course, she did also try to heal Minato first, to no avail. Tell me, how do you think I avoided going to that other school before Elizabeth got to me?
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-13 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
( if komaeda doesn't notice right away, he'll notice as he closes the distance again to inspect the area where lucifer was attacked because that's what he wants to see — if it adds up. this time, rather than taking his time like he did with his chest, the ultimate will smooth his thumb against the fabric trying to find any texture misplacements. as he does so, he makes sure to glance at his wings, thinking of how far the wingspan stretches, )

...One body cut and burned, another throat crushed, one hung by the door. Arisato-kun you went after, it would make sense... she's not really hostile about anyone else, maybe Kawaii-san, but that wasn't you at all.

( to no avail, even thanatos couldn't bring him back? he hums in thought, then that was it... she was too late, and he even recalls at a family meeting that elizabeth would see to it that no one was slaughtered, even minato. )

Ah, had you killed him in front of her, then... I wonder how different her hope would have been. ( that's for another part of the conversation. ) ...Was it your hex, the one you placed it on the body that me and Kawaii-san had kicked around to the student council?

( it didn't lose any limbs, and it wasn't bleeding either... )
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-13 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Mm, you're wrong when you say I went after Minato. I considered him — I consider him a friend, even in his final moments. Unfortunately, he was a child, talking down to his betters when he walked in to see the scene... I couldn't allow him to live after speaking to me that way.

[In what way is unclear, but Lucifer's brow furrows at the memory. What Minato had said to him when he walked in on the scene pissed him off.]

My intent had been only to kill the three that I left hanging up, you see. Elizabeth was, apparently, within the elevator the entire time — she only deigned to greet me after Minato had fallen. I still consider her a friend, too, and perhaps in another life she'd like to join me for a piano rendezvous again.

[The morality of demons is infinitely fucked up. Most humans wouldn't kill someone and claim to still be friends with them after the fact, something that Lucifer knows to be the truth yet finds particularly odd. Does friendship and good memories stop after landing the killing blow?

Komaeda may recall this from the time Lucifer wandered into the science lab, but one of Lucifer's token people for the torture squad to keep their hands off of was Elizabeth. Oh, how the tables turn, truly. But that kill was his, not Komaeda's nor Dito's nor Add's, and so that young girl's memories are still safely tucked away in his back pocket for a rainy day.]


It was that hex, yes. The same one I just used on that can of coffee to keep it still while I undressed minutes earlier. Catching blood within the air and rearranging corpses the way I want them to look is made simple with such powers — if the blood doesn't fall, the annoying ghosts within the school won't come to catch the dying students before I'm done with them.
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-14 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
...That was during the wishes in June, she wanted to hear music that would make her dance, and I remember you took her up on her offer.

( some people are right, and others are wrong, now relationships with others is not much of komaeda's forte, but he does believe in everyone getting along and fighting for the ... hopeful path. there has to be some sort of friendship in it, because if not, they could have been hung and tossed to the side like every other unfortunate body. they were set within the elevator kindly, thoughtfully, and it reads a certain way.

why live arguing with one another when they can die believing in each other, that is a quote that komaeda stands by as well. in the afterlife on those branches, will they ever be able to know the time and effort lucifer put into erecting their bodies as they slept? even now as komaeda tries to imagine how they look, that means he won't see her smile anymore within the classroom —

...

even the moments of playing family in 1-d are no more, and all he has left too, is memories, kind words, and the small exchange they made when komaeda asked her to watch over rika despite his own unfortunate moment. he paints over that with other thoughts, hoping for it to dry immediately so that can disappear from the walls of his mind, too.)


I had a feeling, I kicked, pushed, and did whatever I could to that body, but nothing happened... you are quite... talented in the way of your abilities, I sense no despair from you, and yet there's only hope to be made from this. We've seen what happens when blood falls, but it would have been a mess had you exploded their afterimages yet again.

( all the third years did suffer headaches from it last time, but if that was the case, it'd be easy to tell who did this murder without a second thought. ) You cleaned everything well, but now... those words will never be spoken by Arisato-kun's lips again... do you dare to repeat what he said that caused his fate to be sealed?
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-14 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[Lucifer offers a wry chuckle at the comment, thinking back to when Minato casually walked up to him and stared him down, the challenge in the child's eyes. Oh, they spoke of so much that night, so many words exchanged while blood hung in stagnant droplets in the air, magic filling the hallway...]

I do not remember them verbatim, [wolfie no longer has access to the murderlog for a direct quote,] but he asked me why, over and over again, wearing that calm expression he normally did. Then, when he thought he could simply walk away, he murmured into the night,

"Talk to someone about why you're upset."

...To be frank with you, I have nothing to say to that.

[Lucifer's angry, because Minato knew. Not that he tried to hide his rage and agony from the boy that night, but it doesn't mean he enjoys being spoken down to. How is it a child's business, Lucifer's feelings?]
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-14 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
...

( lucifer, that is equally childish, and for that reason someone died? not that komaeda is thinking, but in a way, this could be seen as a temper tantrum, and komaeda glances off with a chuckle as the elevator stop with a small shake in the cart. )

Hm, he seemed more intune with others feelings than his own, you know?

( whether komaeda's saying he's right or wrong is in the air, but he recalls the other wasn't much of a smiler, but he did things to see the hopes of his friends prosper, to see them smile again. perhaps... )

The counselor will help you with that, tell him why you're upset... and in exchange, he'll break you apart, peel back your skin, and eat whatever you have to offer...

( because that's his job, even though he was komaeda's first experience. aside from that, he looks towards lucifer as his lips purse into a straight line right after, a quick change in pace. ) What do you feel now?
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-14 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
[It is childish. It is absolutely the most childish thing to see advice as a direct hit to your Pride and then to take it out on the advice-giver, to silence him when all he did was care. Sure, Minato had also challenged Lucifer's ways, asking why supposedly-innocent people had to die (Lucifer does not see those people as innocent), and that had been bad enough at the time. But it's a question that Lucifer's willing to answer, had been willing to answer, up until the very sin he embodies had been prodded at.

After that, with him, there's no going back. The minds of demons are too complex to get into. Humanlike in their structure, angellike in their stubbornness and rigidity. That's what happens when you live thousands of years.

No matter what realm he's been in, Lucifer has ever been the sort to detest a challenge to his supposed authority. He was once the most beautiful in the heavens, he is the strongest of the seven sins, and somewhere within his mind only he can protect and maim and do whatever the hell else he damn well pleases because he's him and how dare that be questioned.]


I care little for that man's job. My interest in him is purely aesthetic.

[...Lucifer.

At the very least, he's less furious than he was the night of the murders, less temperamental, less prone to seeing Komaeda's prodding as something that needs to be silenced immediately.]


I don't particularly feel anything now. What's done is done. My retribution has been wrought. Surely there's nothing left to feel.

[Except for guilt, guilt that does not belong to him, for Lucifer is not a man that feels guilt correctly — Lucifer doesn't regret what he did, but he regrets drawing the ire of Sidney in particular, and he lives on knowing that his sister Lilith would resent him for what he's done, and that Lord Diavolo back home would scorn him for his actions. Somewhere in the back of his mind, he gets the niggling sense that Clamor might be upset with him too, were the man alive still.

Morality does not belong to Lucifer; he picks and chooses based on who he's with at the time, for his loyalties go to those he loves only, and anyone else he simply doesn't care about. Caring about the world at large is a human's game, and Lucifer has never been a part of humanity. He cares for his brothers, his late sister, a handful of choice people here, and those he loves too deeply to let go — to ask Pride Himself to see anyone else as important enough to hold and harbour is frankly asking for his long-dead self to return from the Great Celestial War.

Beyond existing as a name and a caretaker of the few he cares for, Lucifer has never really had an identity of his own. Perhaps years ago, when Belphegor called him a lapdog, he was correct in that.]
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-14 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't it quite ironic how everything follows the same pattern of how you're doing emotionally?

( the counselor will do just that, observe and delegate when he listens to lucifer's reasonings, or that's what it seemed like when komaeda was meant to talk about himself. with a hand on his own hip, he takes a step back as he looks up at the other, and listens to his response — he's not a therapist, and he isn't the best judge of character when it comes to someone's feelings, but he knows that the other possibly feels exactly nothing for the people he killed. )

You felt something then, and if you didn't, Arisato-kun would have left unscathed, perhaps even the other bodies, too, left alone, but that's not the case. A string of emotions, one by one, retribution is to extract punishment upon those who have done you wrong — the moment you felt like the world was against you was few and far between, until one.

( probably not his place to mention it, but knowing that lucifer felt something — maybe he didn't understand how to express when he's upset, and so everything else followed one by one — allowed everything he felt to come out in his actions. )

The first deaths were aggressive, you slaughtered them, was it that bad, Lucifer-kun? To act out when no one could see you, because you've never really had a hold on your emotions before? ( it only takes so much to learn what upset him, from how he was during the last murder, and then to pay homage to the doppelganger. )
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-15 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[Lucifer has no reason to feel anything for those who crossed him. If he believes they were in the wrong, he can shut off his feelings and carry on. He's never liked to feel things anyway.]

Please. I have perfect control over my emotions.

[It shows on his face on a normal day, how something can upset him and he'll frown momentarily before fixing his expression and going back to his normal resting bitch face, a switch he flips to protect himself because to be overly emotional has damned him in the past and it'll damn him now. That, of course, is only on those normal days where he's throwing himself into his work to avoid having to feel anything.

Truly, Lucifer has no idea how to cope with strong emotions, and shutting off has always seemed easier. In those few and far between times when people can wiggle their way into his heart, he protects and cares for them as a guardian angel might, and when they're under duress, he remorselessly slaughters whatever it is that put them in that state. Knowing now that he's lying to both himself and Komaeda makes him sigh, as Lucifer is not a man who lies. He sees things in his own way, yes, and someone might accuse him of lying because of that — who's to say Komaeda won't disagree with Lucifer's claims that people got in his way?

Rubbing his temples, Lucifer mutters lowly,]


I much prefer to turn strong emotions off, if I can.

[But he could not. Not this time.]
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[personal profile] commences 2021-10-16 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
( those three words specifically are what komaeda repeats thoughtfully, putting it into perspective in his mind as he compares those words to what happened. the statement against the first three bodies, and then the last two, and one is more obvious than the others in context, but this time as a whole... lucifer wasn't so lucky. besides, his words contradict each other, and if komaeda's not the most hypocritical person that contradicts himself on a daily, then who is he really? he doesn't believe he do since everything plays at his will, and he chuckles softly, slightly amused. )

Perfect control... ( he pauses, a hand settling on his hip ) if you can...

( lucifer, someone with such a high status in religious themes, and to certain people that praise his unique symbolism between certain groups of people. respected and feared, and yet, it's this display that goes against his words as komaeda sees every reason of why it happened this way, it's sort of... ironic, actually. though they say humans are modeled after their creators, and who are they if not playthings of those of a higher realm. )

I'm sorry that your emotions turned against you, and you threw a fit akin to the common man...

( as he thinks about it, those deaths did nothing for the people here, and it was all selfish — whose hopes were even raised by that? his? or did it only plummet him further in a pool of sadness knowing that nothing will be gained. )

That's not what this is about, though, is it... because this was our retribution for allowing something to be taken from you, right? ...In the end, those first three bodies... do you think anyone truly cares for them? ...If those were your friends, the second two, all you did was take from yourself, Lucifer-kun! ...Why do you keep losing all that you have left?

( he cants his head to the side curious, eyes innocently peering up at the other. )
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[personal profile] carpevinum 2021-10-18 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[Yes, he's sorry too — the part of him that feels guilt that is not his own is sorry, anyway. The part of him that's the literal Devil Lucifer, long since Fallen and having torn off two of his six wings, cares very little. What a funny mix of ideals he is, truly.]

...I don't know. I don't see how their lives were any more valuable than what I've already lost.

[Referring, of course, to the first three — the ways in which they crossed Lucifer haven't been revealed yet, and he's not so quick to say what it was, not because logic has won out but because in his ire he thinks everyone is on the same page as him. This isn't, and has never been, the case.]

Elizabeth and Minato will return to life ere long, as Inaba did, as Bonnie did, as many others have and will. I'm not perturbed.

[It says something that he hasn't outright attacked Komaeda for what would otherwise be seen as insolence; Lucifer has little respect for the man, but that's just because he's Lucifer and he has little respect for anyone he hasn't put on his own pedestal. In some ways, the fact that Lucifer hasn't lashed out despite his earlier comments might speak of a certain level of respect, enough to where he's willing to listen but not enough to where he's willing to gain any positive feelings toward the other. Or, perhaps, he simply needs the catharsis of someone listening to him, and the otherwise-scathing comments are able to be ignored.

Still, his statement that Liz and Minato will return is certainly an interesting one, is it not? Would those who he made his retribution about not return ere long too? It's a conundrum to be certain, and Lucifer's eyes gleam with a certain awareness. He knows, he recognizes, but who knows how long it'll be anyway; the point of his message was not to say that he's unaware of this purgatory, but to make it clear that should he be taken from again, worse things will happen.

It's better for everyone if everyone lives. Such is not how things work out here.

There are a lot of things going through Lucifer's head, and this, frankly, is why he disconnects from his emotions. The hypocrisy of the human existence is something that Lucifer shares in common with them. Some might see it as humanizing something inhuman; others might think a demon is degrading himself by being like mortals. Lucifer cares naught for either argument.]


I would not take it back, however. The consequences they all suffered were because each of them crossed me in a very specific fashion. I have respect for Elizabeth and Minato, friends as we were; I have no respect for the three I left hanging.